BCRA cave surveying agm minutes

[Chris Smart]

Hi Graham

Having used the BCRA grades since surveying my first 'new' caves in
Pakistan, India and Nepal in 1976 I have a fondness for their simplicity and
have always been a great lover of BCRA grade 4b or 4c on expeditions -
because I know that all those claimed grade 5 surveys  were not true grade
fives due to lack of calibration at the very least.  I will miss them and
would argue that they should stay ... however, in today's modern world and
in my experience in Meghalaya, cavers come together from a variety of
countries so it makes sense to go the UIS route.

Let me know if you want a hand with re-writing the surveying guide.

Cheers
Blitz

-----Original Message-----
From: Cave-Surveying [mailto:cave-surveying-bounces at survex.com] On Behalf Of
Graham Mullan
Sent: 15 October 2013 08:10
To: cave-surveying at survex.com
Subject: Re: BCRA cave surveying agm minutes

Sounds like a good, useful, positive meeting.

A few points:

I agree that people should be encouraged to ask basic questions on the list,
it is helpful to everybody.

UBSS has already adopted UIS grades (thanks to Andrew, essentially).
There will be resistance to this, but it is the right way forward.

I am willing to help with re-writing the surveying guide. After all, if I
can understand it, then anyone can! The BCRA guides have been cited
thousands of times in articles and papers & we really need one reference
that covers paperless methodology that can be cited & be easily found.
One reason for the writing of the Gough's paper last year was to get a
reference "out there" even though that did cover more than just paperless
methods.

Graham
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On 15/10/2013 08:34, Andrew Atkinson wrote:
> After many years of not writing things like minutes, and with the 
> advent of the cave survey competition at Hidden Earth, we have sort of 
> got ourselves a little more organised this year.
> 
> So for any of you who are interested, here are the minutes. One thing 
> that might cause a debate, is the commendation for BCRA to adopt the 
> UIS survey grades.
> 
> http://cp.cavesurveying.org.uk/index.php/csg/9-agm2013
> 
> Andrew
> Secretary
> Cave Surveying Group
> 

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